Saturnian Cosmology

KEY CONCEPT - Saturnian Cosmology

Central to a reconstruction of ancient planetary history is the acknowledgement of the primacy of the planet Saturn. This has come about through comparative mythology studies, and in modern times has been promulgated by Dave Talbott in his book, The Saturn Myth, published in 1980. This important detective work and its later iterations by other scholars have furthered an understanding of a planetary arrangement completely different than today.

There are now extensive writings and a number of videos that flesh out this evidence.  The most significant one to date is Talbott’s Symbols of an Alien Sky.  It is a heartwarming and eye opening view of a missing chapter in Earth history. See it here:


This reality is one of the most important memories of the ancient world. The era when Saturn reigned was a time when Earth was bathed in light and warmth. According to many myths, humans had abilities far beyond what we have today.  We could talk with the animals, had a radiant lightbody, could levitate or fly, and the veil between life and death was slight.

In the best reconstruction so far, Saturn was the central illuminating body that sat nearly motionless in the heavens above the North Pole. Saturn was our original sun, a sub-brown dwarf star that itself came to orbit around our current sun. Depending on which Saturnian theorist you embrace, Saturn either carried with it, or recaptured the other solar planets in a sub and supra-polar conjunction, the planets strung out like beads on a piece of hanging twine, the whole edifice orbiting around the sun.  Saturn was in the middle with Neptune above, then Uranus with its tippy axis at the topmost.  According to Talbott, immediately below Saturn was Venus, then Mars, then Earth.  Jno Cook, another Saturnian has Mercury in place of Venus, with Venus off to the side of Saturn connected by a curved plasma stream. This was the rib that Adam (Saturn) broke from his body to create Eve (Venus). Most Saturnians recognize that the super hot, electrified Venus was born out of Saturn through some unexplained eruption, and that sometime in its early existence Venus acted like a renegade comet. Immanuel Velikovsky thought that Venus emerged from Jupiter, but this appears to be in error according to most.

Many Saturnians hesitate to put a date to it, but tend to agree that Venus was hatched either prior or early during what Talbott calls the ‘era of the gods’ when Saturn enjoyed its prominence. This period was the Greek Golden Age, the Hebraic Garden of Eden.

This massive Saturn entrained conjunction that lasted more than 1,000 years and possibly much longer, can be seen represented in the ubiquitous sculptural images of the so-called Venus figurines, aka the Michelin tire man with the bulbous curves.  These curves were the outlines of the glow mode plasma comas that enveloped each planet. What a sight for our ancestors to contemplate and render in sculpture down through the ages!  No wonder that we embraced this vision as an abode of the gods. For the gods were the planets and we watched and learned from them with awe and reverence.  Everything they did, we desired to re-enact. As Above; So Below – that was our human motto.

Saturnian cosmology can be broken down into three periods, the middle being the great reign of benevolence when the massive planetary conjunction was most stable and the skies had cleared so humans could see what was going on.  For Saturnians, the beginning of this period is recognized as the ‘time of creation,’ the basis for most indigenous creation myths.

Prior to this time, there are a few different credible scenarios on how this formation came into being. They each explain how Saturn came to be influenced by the sun, having been captured by it, and possibly assisted by the agency of a massive Jupiter, which was never part of the Saturn system. This situation is worthy of added study, as the subject is beyond the scope of this web site. This early history with Saturn’s possible role in previous era ending Earth catastrophes is a fascinating topic.  Certainly at the end of the ‘last ice age’ 12,000 years ago something spectacular occurred with Saturn to cause the massive megafauna species die-off. Further back, it is possible to conjecture that Saturn had a hand in other mass extinction periods if it was an influence that came and went periodically through our solar system.

For more detail on this subject, read Jno Cook’s chapter 6 in his web based book, Recovering the Lost World:


Scholars such as Dave Talbott, Dwardu Cardona, and other Thunderbolts Saturnians posit that prior to the final breakup of the Saturn complex, Earth had always been entrained with Saturn in the same conjunction.  If so, the Earth had never become habituated to the sun, but lived under the diffuse light of Saturn, warmed uniformly over the entire globe by the continual outpouring of Saturn’s radiance, confined in a type of plasma bubble or hazy magnetosphere.  In this view, man and nature had a very different existence than today, a type of perpetual ‘purple dawn,’ of dim light that stretched back into antiquity.

Other scholars such as Jno Cook posit that during this last Saturnian cycle, Saturn returned to our solar system on its routine 27 million year rotation (remember the periodic era ending mass extinctions) whereby its old satellite Earth was re-captured from the sun in this new conjunct formation.

Alas, the penultimate period of Saturn ended, our old brown dwarf sun abandoning us, the previously entrained planets scattering through the solar system.  From various myths we find that Jupiter, the bull of heaven had something to do with it, or was it our current sun?

The conjectures are many, and you can travel down any rabbit hole you like and arrive at your own conclusions.  But don’t do it until you read what everybody else has said about it.

The main takeaway from all this, is that there is an important missing chapter that we need to recover into memory.  The age of Saturn was an exceedingly important period and a completely different human life experience. This story is encoded in archaic myths from all over the world.  The time of Creation, living in the Garden, and the Fall are archetypes that come from this period.  Most people disregard these stories as childish religious beliefs or silly myths, but in actuality something monumental did happen and this was recorded and saved in memory.

Myth and religion were the cultural expressions that preserved the memory, but like all memories, this one has become overlain with much embellishment and hijacked culturally and revised to favor new agendas.

Our current cult of scientism in the West is in a desperate fight to shut down the conversation about ancient history. It doesn’t want to give credibility to the old religions and hand them any power back. It also isn’t ready to accept a revision of Earth history made by people outside of established academia, no matter their weight of evidence.

So here we sit, a few of us remembering Saturn, trying to pass on the memory to others.  Remember Saturnalia, the old joyful religious cult that was celebrated in Roman culture at the end of the year, the time of conviviality and plenty? Yes, that was a legacy of Saturn’s rule.  Gee, I miss Saturn….

  1. Rob Reply

    Great site – thanks!

    Following a Hindu chronology of god events it appears as you and others have stated that we were originally born of Saturn and lived for a long period linked to the parent body.
    Saturn worshipped as principal among all – note the six armed form as stationary hexagon on north pole – it would answer to the notion that MahaVisnu with six arms a[[ears as laying on a bed of snakes on an ocean. The writhing forms around the six sided polar feature certainly appear just as that.
    As Saturn with it’s host of moons and planetoids is at a time captured into the gravity well of the sun and in the process of settling into orbit it had to give up mass thereby producing Jupiter.
    Visnu produced Brahma from the navel – Saturn’s south pole is decidedly labial.
    Following further, from the eye of Brahma (Jupiter) came Venus


  2. Patrick Donnelly Reply

    Still no proof of an earlier civilization. Much of the artefact evidence, if it exists, is kept hidden by those who currently direct humans, mostly Oceania, as Eric Blair had it.

    Their purpose is sinister and exposing truths is dangerous. 9/11, dropping interest rates to zero, tsunami in Aceh and Fukushima all demonstrate that WW III has begun. This could be said to be in tune with the sun cycle.

    Electro-magnetic beings are playing with lies as science. We are organized as if we live in time of scarcity, yet we have never been as wealthy, populous nor as divided.

    How can we trust our professional, hereditary leadership structure when they lie to cover up incompetence and theft? Exposing more lies is a dangerous pastime!

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  4. Mike Schmanske Reply

    Interesting.. How long would it take for a “Brown Dwarf-like” Saturn to:
    a) Alter it’s orbit to a new location
    b) Cool to the point where we wouldn’t read it’s new heat signature, and/or why it isn’t melting the ice on Titan

    Also please explain:
    a) Why the Earth would not have been torn apart by tidal forces as the massive planetary system shifted to a new location.
    b) Why we should think of 1,000 or even 10,000 years as a long time in cosmological terms.

  5. Greg Jay Hunt Reply

    Very well written, a pleasure to read!

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